StepMania song pack help / requests

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby Ace Of Hearts » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:09 am

I can help inform you as to what's big in the pad community.

Honestly, my own packs don't get the attention they deserve despite how long I've been around; most people in the pad-pack community - ITG-wise, anyway - would rather hear about the release of a challenge-only pack that pushes on-foot limits; stuff like the relatively recent release of Tachyon Epsilon, or the upcoming Dragonforce rewrite pack. While packs providing all five difficulty levels are very good for newbies, established players sadly don't care about them whatsoever for the most part.

For news items, if you wish to retain respectability in the pad-based community, I'd recommend sticking mostly with high-profile names; people will want to see news regarding the authors of the above packs (Mad Matt for the Tachyon series, Cosmic Pope for the Dragonforce pack), plus stuff released by stepartists such as Jayce, Mandodo, WinDeu, and Mudkyp; they're all pretty popular in the world of ITG simfiling (and packs are available on DivinElegy).

As for me and my packs - or really, most any pack that has a newbie-oriented aspect - when it comes to catering to the established playerbase, as things presently stand, I and most others like me would honestly be pretty close to the bottom of the list when it comes to hardcore players caring. The way things are now, stepartists such as myself would be best-suited to being thrown in a corner in small-size text, news-wise, until becoming more popular and "deserving" of a more prominent spot in most players' eyes.

Or you can choose to take a page from my book and put such packs on just as prominent a display, sending the message to the challenge-oriented players that new players are just as important as those already established, and helping to raise newbie awareness of stepartists like myself who still care about bringing new players to the scene, letting them know when another newbie-friendly pack has been released that they can use for their early experience-gaining needs.

Regardless, my belief is that staff should definitely continue announcing events and new features - I especially believe you should announce any new room commands that get implemented as well, as those are very important, I'd think. (By the way, if anyone could PM me a full list of all room commands that are currently present on the server, that'd help tremendously, as /help gives me a list so long it doesn't all seem to fit in the chatbox, unless there are exactly as many commands as there is vertical space in the chatbox. XD)

Pad players, as far as I know, couldn't give less of a crap about FFR (although I'd wager a guess that a lot of SMO players probably value FFR very highly), and except for those who focus on DDR, most pad players don't care about DDR releases, preferring more challenging ITG-style simfile packs and charts - especially given that some like me believe Konami has recently made a lot of bad decisions regarding rating system (the rating system in the DDR X series is horrible, in my and others' opinions, given DDR X seems to think 18 is the new 10) and implementation of elements from ITG since acquiring intellectual property (they still, to my knowledge, don't use single Shock Arrows, preferring to span them across all four receptors every single time they're used, and they have yet to even try to use rolls anywhere that I know of).

Overall I'd say r21Freak and DivinElegy would make good reference points as to what pad players presently care about, and which packs are most popular at the moment.

I stopped playing keyboard-type files years ago, so I couldn't deign to try to say what keyboard players care about - although I'd bet you already have plenty of input on that; I've even dropped out of contention with Otaku's Dream ever since they started focusing on keyboard files; as a result, I no longer play their simfiles, as much as I like them as a community.

That's my two cents.

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby @@ » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:29 pm

I've been a part of the pad community for a while now, and while there is a bit of truth in what you are saying, I think the issue is less of your pack's contents (read: easy stuff) and more of the fact that you just aren't that involved in the forum community. Packs catering to more novice of players or FA players are still popular, with Mute Sims, Easy as Pie, and Fraxtil's most recent packs getting rave reviews and a ton of downloads. On any machine I've played on there is equal or more (usually more) easier stuff than hard stuff. These packs are popular because when someone has established themselves in a forum, the community has a higher propensity to try out their files. I'm not saying there doesn't have to be some standard of quality in the charts and ethos of the step artist (someone who passes 8's writing a pack of all 20's or someone extremely immature on a forum trying to bring out a serious release may run into a problem to bring in some examples), but it is hard for most people to download a pack made by someone with 3 posts.

In terms of pad releases, KB players only care about the hard stuff. Tachyon Epsilon, CV/BV and my pack (oh Henry mad stamina) are really the only packs I see that are meant for pad when browsing KB score threads. The only reason these are even here are because of their difficulty when rate modded.
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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby Ace Of Hearts » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:12 am

I'd really come to realize lately that merely having my own website doesn't seem to mean much of anything; that's why I started working lately to correct my forum non-presence (why I signed up for r21Freak and here and started posting). It has yet to really affect me over there (then again, all is a matter of time), but hopefully I will gain notoriety. Not the point though.

Rather, the point was the category of my sims and the demographic which my sims mostly cater to. You countered that as well, however, and rightly so (despite the fact that last I checked, "Easy as Pie" is Expert-only, even though it's 9-12).

I try not to hide under rocks, but it seems that I was under one and didn't realize it. So thanks for correcting me and telling me what's up. It's appreciated.

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby Wafles » Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:51 pm

Part of making good charts is not being egotistical about it. Make stuff thats fun for you and if other people like it then its an added bonus. You should never be trying to cater to the masses or your files will always just be average.

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby Ace Of Hearts » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:09 am

I agree. That's why I don't exclusively write insanely hard singles. Got enough stepartists doing that already. I enjoy writing stepcharts for songs I like that are fun to play. That's why I do as well as I do. I was merely concerned about my level of notoriety.

But enough about me. Seriously. This thread wasn't created to argue about my sentiments and stance - and it makes me a bit nervous; I don't wanna get in any trouble for causing the thread to go off on an argumental tangent. o.o;

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby Izzy » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:57 am

I assure you anyone that can do anything is ok with your comments. You'd have to start shitposting or flaming to upset me or other staff.

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby afat100 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:26 am

Hey.. Some D3MIX Missing Song here
Thank You...

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby NOAVGC » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:23 am

Hi, I'm looking for a certain DDR Mario Mix pack that I lost when I formatted my computer. It is not the official stepfiles, it was created by someone with more difficult steps so it was more challenging. Several of the songs had slideshow backgrounds that would change during the song. I've done a lot of searching but I can't find this pack online anymore. I really miss this pack and would appreciate it if someone could help me find it again.

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby Thumbsy » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:39 am

Just wanted to let you guys know that beta 3 of StepMania 5 has been out for a little while now: https://github.com/stepmania/stepmania/releases
Links on the download page need updating again :p Cheers

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby foxfire667 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:05 am

Yes, this is the right place to post about packs that have yet to be hosted onto SMO. I'm unsure how long the pack has been out, but I haven't checked your site in a little while and I apologize. Have been looking over divinelegy again, but because of the way it's set up, I have to look at everything as opposed to just new packs to find stuff ugh.

Anyway the pack is hosted, and you can download it here: .

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby Sidek » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:57 pm

someone have the sam and GG's pack ???

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby Sup3rn0v4 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:51 pm

Anybody have Nocturne Mix, Indeed Engine has it in the pack list but its not in the SMO Downloads section, does anybody have the pack?

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby foxfire667 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:27 am

Thanks for bringing that up, I was actually able to locate the Nocturne Mix series, and now have it hosted!



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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby Ace Of Hearts » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:35 am







For full information on inductions made, one can see . Scroll down to the appropriate section.

I started work on my own next pack, by the way, a few weeks ago, by writing one entire chart. I really need to get back to writing for my new pack; I know a bunch of people are looking forward to it. So like...real work on my next pack is definitely gonna happen soon.

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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby foxfire667 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:06 pm

Updated them on SMO.

Though as the date is a part of the pack name links are altered:


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Re: StepMania song pack help / requests

Postby foxfire667 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:58 am

Hosted on SMO:


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